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What is a wind knot and what do I do about it?

Short answer

A wind knot is an overhand knot that appears in your leader or tippet. It is caused by a tailing loop in your cast, not by wind. It substantially weakens the line, so cut it out and re-tie rather than picking it apart — and fix the casting fault or it will come straight back.

What is a wind knot?

A simple overhand knot that appears somewhere in your leader or tippet, apparently from nowhere. You did not tie it. You often do not notice it until you break off a fish and find a neat little curl on the end of the line.

The name is one of fly fishing's more durable pieces of misdirection. It suggests the weather did it, which is comforting and mostly untrue.

What actually causes it?

A tailing loop. In a good cast, the fly leg of the line travels above the rod leg and the loop unrolls cleanly. In a tailing loop the two cross, the fly end dips below, and as the loop unrolls it flips through itself and pulls tight.

That crossing is caused by the rod tip dipping below a straight path during the stroke, which usually comes from:

Where wind knots actually come from
FaultWhat it doesFix
Power applied too earlyRod overbends then rebounds, dipping the tipAccelerate smoothly, hardest at the very end
Too short a stroke for the line outForces you to punch itLengthen the stroke as you carry more line
Loop too narrowLess margin before the legs crossWiden the loop deliberately
Casting two flies or heavy foamHinged rig destabilises the loopOpen the loop, slow the stroke
Trying to beat a headwindEncourages punchingLower the cast, drive it under the wind

How much does it weaken the line?

Enough that you should not fish through one. An overhand knot puts a sharp bend in monofilament and concentrates the load at that single point, and the line fails there under a fraction of its rated strength.

This is exactly the kind of failure that costs you the best fish of the day, because a small trout will never load the line enough to find the flaw.

Should you untie it or cut it out?

Cut it out. Always. Even if you can pick the knot apart with a needle, the monofilament has already been crushed and deformed at that point and it will not recover.

Cut on the rod side of the knot, then rejoin with a double or triple surgeon's knot, or simply tie on fresh tippet if the leader has got short. The whole operation takes about a minute. Fishing on with a wind knot to save that minute is one of the worst trades available on a river.

Knot-tying detail is in which knots you actually need.

How do you stop them coming back?

  1. Slow down

    Most tailing loops are a timing problem. A slower stroke gives the rod time to unload properly.

  2. Apply power at the end

    Accelerate smoothly to an abrupt stop, rather than punching at the start of the stroke.

  3. Match stroke length to line length

    Short line, short stroke. More line out needs a longer stroke and a longer pause.

  4. Widen the loop on purpose

    A slightly wider loop has more margin before the legs cross. Open it deliberately when casting two flies, weight, or a wind-resistant foam dry.

  5. Check the leader periodically

    Run it through your fingers between fish. Finding one early costs a minute; finding it late costs a fish.

The last habit is the one worth building. A quick pull of the leader through your fingers after any tangle, any snag, or any cast that felt wrong will find a wind knot long before a Chubby Chernobyl and a good brown trout find it for you.

Frequently asked questions

What causes a wind knot?

A tailing loop — the fly leg of the cast crossing below the rod leg and flipping over itself. It is a casting fault, usually from applying power too early or too abruptly. Wind makes it more likely but does not cause it.

Does a wind knot weaken your line?

Yes, substantially. An overhand knot creates a sharp bend that concentrates strain at one point. Published figures vary by material and knot, but the practical rule is simple: assume it will break on the next decent fish.

Can you untie a wind knot?

Sometimes, but you should not bother. Even a knot you pick out has already deformed the monofilament at that point. Cut it out and re-tie — it takes about a minute and removes the problem entirely.

How do you stop getting wind knots?

Slow the casting stroke down and apply power smoothly at the end rather than at the start. Widen the loop slightly, and open it deliberately when casting two flies or anything wind-resistant.

Sources

  1. Orvis News — Pro Tips: The Only Two Terminal Knots You Really Need
  2. Hatch Magazine — Understanding Leaders and Tippets

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